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Claudia
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14 June 2011 12:21
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I passed! Now for an important question...
User: Claudia - 14 June 2011 12:21
I tend to use Dr because I can't be bothered to figure out whether to use Miss/Mrs/Ms. I am married, but I have not changed my name - so both Mrs Maidenname and Miss Maidenname seem wrong. Dr Maidenname I can cope with :p
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mackem_Beefy
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14 June 2011 11:39
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User: mackem_Beefy - 14 June 2011 11:39
======= Date Modified 14 Jun 2011 11:43:43 =======Quote From pierrer:
If you've earned it, use it.
Or if you're "Dr" Gillian McKeith...
If you've paid for it, use it. Got curious. Streuth, if the institute is not properly accredited the qualification is not worth the paper it is written upon!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_McKeith
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cjames
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03 June 2011 19:08
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User: cjames - 03 June 2011 19:08
I am going to use mine in every situation that I used to use Mr in.
So when I have to introduce myself formally I will just say my first and second name as I never used to say Mr so and so.
Informally, if I meet someone at a party etc, obviously I will just say my first name.
At the bottom of a letter, not related to academia, I will just sign off using my name as I never used to put Mr so and so.
In terms of forms/new bank accounts etc, if they ask for a title, I will put Dr as I am one.
If someone calls me Mr I wont be correcting them by saying "actually it's Dr" (well, maybe I will if I get an obnoxious customer service person who is speaking to me like I'm stupid, tut only if they deserve it).
I think if you previously didn't use your title of Mr or Ms etc for something, then to start to use Dr for the same thing is obviously a bit show-offy.
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kanc
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01 June 2011 09:16
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User: kanc - 01 June 2011 09:16
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Doodles
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31 May 2011 23:04
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User: Doodles - 31 May 2011 23:04
Good one 8-)
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Mackem_Beefy
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31 May 2011 15:51
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User: Mackem_Beefy - 31 May 2011 15:51
Quote From beajay:
I'm with Olivia on this one. I've been divorced for 30 odd years, but carry my ex-husband's surname, as this is my professional name. I have a horror of titles in general and refer to myself in my professional name without any title. But Dr is useful in sidestepping the 'Mrs or Miss?' question which, like Olivia, I hate. The other place it's really useful is in answering the phone to cold callers. They ask if they could speak to Mr or Mrs X. I say that there's no one of either name who lives here. My cold call numbers have dropped very significantly! I'll remember that the next time someone calls me from Mumbai or Kolkota, telling me I have a problem with my computer!!! :-)
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beajay
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31 May 2011 15:47
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User: beajay - 31 May 2011 15:47
I'm with Olivia on this one. I've been divorced for 30 odd years, but carry my ex-husband's surname, as this is my professional name. I have a horror of titles in general and refer to myself in my professional name without any title. But Dr is useful in sidestepping the 'Mrs or Miss?' question which, like Olivia, I hate. The other place it's really useful is in answering the phone to cold callers. They ask if they could speak to Mr or Mrs X. I say that there's no one of either name who lives here. My cold call numbers have dropped very significantly!
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BilboBaggins
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30 May 2011 12:30
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User: BilboBaggins - 30 May 2011 12:30
Though I did have an awkward doctor thing a couple of months ago. My Mum had been admitted - nearly dying - to a coronary care ward many hours away from us. I think she'd told everyone there (once conscious) that her daughter was a doctor, as was her son-in-law. So when I had to speak on the phone to a member of staff about Mum's case the nurse assumed I was a medical doctor, and gave me far more detailed information, using all the medical abbrevations and terminology, than she normally would have done. Part-way through the conversation I explained I wasn't a medical doctor, but an academic doctor. But it wasn't so bad. I got to know more about Mum's case, and it was actually quite helpful.
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BilboBaggins
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30 May 2011 12:28
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User: BilboBaggins - 30 May 2011 12:28
Quote From Mackem_Beefy:
Just another thought on this. Those that have chosen to use their Dr. title, have you also made this change with your GP. That is one situation where I do imagine it to be embarrasing. No I didn't change that, though I told my GP I'd passed my PhD, because he supported me on disability grounds during it, and also my hospital consultant, who I see every month, and was extremely pleased to know I'd passed. But on the GP/hospital records I'm still Mrs. Basically I just use it in academic settings, though I did change my title with the bank, so I have some definite ID proving my Dr status on me at any time. But it's not as though I speak to anyone at the bank (I really don't!), so they never call me Dr.
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Mackem_Beefy
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30 May 2011 11:39
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User: Mackem_Beefy - 30 May 2011 11:39
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Just another thought on this. Those that have chosen to use their Dr. title, have you also made this change with your GP. That is one situation where I do imagine it to be embarrasing.
I've obviously left this situation be. People are called out as Mr., Mrs., Miss, etc. on an electronic display, so being called out as Dr. would be taking the... :-)
Again, my thoughts are use on in professional situations only or (as stated earlier) extra identity with large financial transactions.
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olivia
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03 April 2011 19:33
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User: olivia - 03 April 2011 19:33
Quote From Mackem_Beefy: Quote From olivia:
For quite some time after getting the PhD I did not use the Dr title much...I used it in academic circumstances such as job applications...that was about it. Then someone pointed out the very useful neutral nature of the title--it gets rid of that hideous ( IMO) Mrs/Ms/Miss title stuff you have to fill out on forms for banks, etc. Men are lucky in having the single choice of Mister. This designation of marital status, for women only, on forms drives me insane. Many places in the UK do not have the Ms. option, so then you have to choose between Miss and Mrs....and I dither. Being divorced and having never changed my name to my (ex) husband's when married, am I a Mrs? a Miss? Dr. solves it all rather nicely. ;-)
Now when someone is filling out a form and asks me, I gave a sweet smile and say as modestly as I can, "Actually, its Dr". If you're a divorcee, you revert to being Miss. I know Ms. came about with the best of intentions, with the intention of getting away with the image of ownership by men. However, I cringe when I hear it. If all women use 'Miss', it sounds better and solves the problem. Hmmm....but whose name is it? Is the name done for the benefit of the identity of the individual whose name it is, or for the world at large?! and is there some equivalent male gender term for divorcee? Not that springs to mind. Ms may not be an ideal term, but it is certainly preferential to the lack of choice available to women in terms of prefixes. If women want to have a title that does not make a statement about their marital status, what is wrong with that? Men after all have a simple title that does not announce their marital status. But at any rate, the problem is all nicely solved by now making use of the title Dr. :p(up)
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Mackem_Beefy
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03 April 2011 19:20
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User: Mackem_Beefy - 03 April 2011 19:20
======= Date Modified 03 Apr 2011 19:22:26 =======Quote From PhD_smug:
You don't use titles on passports, so how can you use Dr on your passport? and why would you want to? people just assume you mean medical Dr, and then you have to say.. oh no, sorry, PhD Dr..which takes something away from the whole thing..and makes it seem like a 'pretend' title .. a lot of folk don't get what PhD is ...[/quote]
On the latest passports, the page with the biometric chip has you full name with title printed on it (the page immediately following your photo ID). The passport office also told me they were going to do this (one of my other forms of photo ID made it clear I had the PhD and it was a rush job, so couldn't easily avoid - grab first thing at hand). I personally didn't give a monkeys either way and I think my reaction at the time was "whatever!"
I definitely agree that alot of people don't get what a PhD is, one reason not to make a song and dance about it.
[quote]Quote From pierrer:
If you've earned it, use it.
Or if you're "Dr" Gillian McKeith...
If you've paid for it, use it. I gather there's a story in the above. ;-)
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PhD_smug
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09 March 2011 11:04
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User: PhD_smug - 09 March 2011 11:04
You don't use titles on passports, so how can you use Dr on your passport? and why would you want to? people just assume you mean medical Dr, and then you have to say.. oh no, sorry, PhD Dr..which takes something away from the whole thing..and makes it seem like a 'pretend' title .. a lot of folk don't get what PhD is ...
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Mackem_Beefy
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09 March 2011 09:19
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User: Mackem_Beefy - 09 March 2011 09:19
Quote From olivia:
For quite some time after getting the PhD I did not use the Dr title much...I used it in academic circumstances such as job applications...that was about it. Then someone pointed out the very useful neutral nature of the title--it gets rid of that hideous ( IMO) Mrs/Ms/Miss title stuff you have to fill out on forms for banks, etc. Men are lucky in having the single choice of Mister. This designation of marital status, for women only, on forms drives me insane. Many places in the UK do not have the Ms. option, so then you have to choose between Miss and Mrs....and I dither. Being divorced and having never changed my name to my (ex) husband's when married, am I a Mrs? a Miss? Dr. solves it all rather nicely. ;-)
Now when someone is filling out a form and asks me, I gave a sweet smile and say as modestly as I can, "Actually, its Dr". If you're a divorcee, you revert to being Miss. I know Ms. came about with the best of intentions, with the intention of getting away with the image of ownership by men. However, I cringe when I hear it. If all women use 'Miss', it sounds better and solves the problem.
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Candle
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06 March 2011 16:11
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User: Candle - 06 March 2011 16:11
When you've passed your viva is a good time to use it! And for filling in pesky application forms for an academic job Dr helps me thinks!
But not to be confused with a "real" Dr!!!! ;-)
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