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User: Ptw23 - 23 November 2020 19:57

Hi all,

I have just got my final grade back for my MSc in molecular medicine from bath university and have only just managed to get over 58% so a pass, I also have a 2:1/65% in veterinary biosciences from Aberystwyth university. I currently work full time at a microbiology lab with experience in pathogen culturing and many microbiological techniques and run my own team at the company.

Given how terrible this year has been, I am further devastated by the news that I have done so poorly in my master's.

I am just wondering what are my options regarding a PhD? I know that getting funding will be hard but is there any tips you can give me to improve my chances?

Any help would be massively appreciated.

User: PhoenixFortune - 25 November 2020 12:22

Quote From Ptw23:
Hi all,

I have just got my final grade back for my MSc in molecular medicine from bath university and have only just managed to get over 58% so a pass, I also have a 2:1/65% in veterinary biosciences from Aberystwyth university. I currently work full time at a microbiology lab with experience in pathogen culturing and many microbiological techniques and run my own team at the company.

Given how terrible this year has been, I am further devastated by the news that I have done so poorly in my master's.

I am just wondering what are my options regarding a PhD? I know that getting funding will be hard but is there any tips you can give me to improve my chances?

Any help would be massively appreciated.

Getting an unfunded PhD place may be quite simple (depending on the institution, supervisor etc.), but a funded one is going to be near-impossible with a pass at MSc level. Is a PhD essential to what you want to do?

A friend of mine in a similar situation to you applied for a second MSc in an attempt to get a better classification, but this isn't advisable for everyone.

User: eng77 - 25 November 2020 13:28

It is not easy with lower marks. I suggest you search for an RA job and try to publish then you will have a better chance. The other option is like PhoenixFortune said to do another Master. You can try with your current profile but it will be difficult.

User: Jamie_Wizard - 25 November 2020 15:57

If you are really set on getting a PhD, you could first do an M.Res (Masters by research). That way you'll have 1 (sometimes 2) research projects to demonstrate your research abilities. Do these well and you shouldn't have trouble applying after you've completed it.

User: pm133 - 25 November 2020 19:17

In the current climate I think you are going to struggle to get a funded PhD position.
Additionally, I would always advise against doing a PhD starting from such a weak undergraduate level position.

User: Ptw23 - 25 November 2020 22:58

Quote From PhoenixFortune:
tting an unfunded PhD place may be quite simple (depending on the institution, supervisor etc.), but a funded one is going to be near-impossible with a pass at MSc level. Is a PhD essential to what you want to do?

A friend of mine in a similar situation to you applied for a second MSc in an attempt to get a better classification, but this isn't advisable for everyone.

Hi,

Thanks for the advice, getting a unfunded PhD isn't really an option as I need to work or at least be getting some form of income. Well I was planning to be a lecturer but it's unlikely that I will be able to do that now

I mean if I could get the funding then I would do a second master's such as an MRes but not sure

User: Ptw23 - 25 November 2020 23:00

I have been looking at that as a potential route into it I have applied to a few places, so fingers crossed but I still want to head down the PhD route as soon as possible

User: abababa - 26 November 2020 16:39

It's definitely not impossible, and I disagree that the 2:1 at undergrad is a major barrier as well. Admittedly if you're trying to get into a world-leading group at a top uni, it's probably the case that the majority of applicants will have 1sts/distinctions/know the right people from Eton. But for the remaining 95% of opportunities, you would likely meet the requirements to get through the initial sift, and it will be more down to how you perform at interview. Most experienced academics have learnt (often the hard way) a student with top grades is not automatically the best PhD candidate - especially if they have top grades because they're really good at exam technique and working to short, clear, assessed objectives; both of which are almost irrelevant to a PhD.

If you come across as knowledgeable, passionate, and can explain away the grade (or just say you have an MSc, which is true, and should be grounded in the kinda-ridiculous-when-you-think-about-it fact that what you feel was an awful result was only 12% off a distinction), you will be in good stead.

It's probably worth noting you would substantially increase your chances if you're not constrained to looking in the UK.

You're also in the fortunate position of having a full-time job, so you can take the time to keep applying. If you do this, and accept the odds of success per application are going to sit around 5%, then you'll recognize it will take patience but is very unlikely to be a lost cause.

Btw it seems a really bad idea to do a 2nd self-funded masters in the hopes of getting a higher grade. That's based on some really risky assumptions (that you'll get one, and that it will make the difference). It's not just £3k you're gambling but a year of lost earnings while you study. I'd put the £3k on a roulette table and shoot for self-funding a PhD with the winnings before doing that...

User: KieranHughes - 26 November 2020 20:18

I need some assistance...please.
Need to think of a way to peg some oral histories onto a PhD style question.
I have 150 oral histories on the Brighton Bombing.

How did the Brighton Bombing impact?





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