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queserasera User 21/10/2023 07:43	Disappointed Postdoc: Is academia really that toxic? User: queserasera - 21 October 2023 07:43 Hey all, I have come to a realisation these past few months and I would like to discuss this with people who might understand the situation. Finished my PhD, and started my PostDoc. Being proud of being a Dr. and achieving the highest qualification in my educational journey after such a challenging journey I joined the university with aspirations, dreams, and a great dose of romanticism. Ever since I joined the university as a Postdoc, ( 2 months), I am being treated as an assistant to say the least. I feel like I am the equivalent of an undergrad in the department. I never demanded to be treated like a professor, I know my place in the ladder...but it saddens me that the human element is lost between great egos, unemotional faces, and power dynamics. I know what I want to achieve through my PostDoc, and this is the only thing that is keeping me sane. Even though it is too early to speak, I do not like the academic culture, it is too harsh for me. Is this it? Why? How can one leave academia and start consulting? What can one do in the industry? Thank you.
KoCer User 25/10/2023 13:27	User: KoCer - 25 October 2023 13:27 CFBR
tru User 28/12/2023 22:10	User: tru - 28 December 2023 22:10 As with everything with life, if you choose the wrong role with the wrong team, things can be toxic. Go ahead and leave academia if you don’t like it. Life is too short not to try. Do your literature review and read articles of what industry roles there are. Maybe target a start up and work your way up. All the best
melatonin User 29/05/2024 04:32	User: melatonin - 29 May 2024 04:32 I'd never make excuses for that and I'd advise you to move on. From my own experience working in a trouble-shooting team: clear, communicative leadership, structures and processes can transform a toxic workplace for the better. (I write that mostly so you don't think your colleagues are inherently dreadful). But the opportunity to do so only comes with drastic necessity, and universities don't seem to be facing any. Yet. (Also any career with no obvious markers of performance can be fraught).
abuislam User 06/06/2024 09:35	User: abuislam - 06 June 2024 09:35 I understand how disheartening it must be to face such challenges after achieving your PhD and starting your PostDoc. The transition to academia can indeed be tough, with its power dynamics and often impersonal environment. If you're considering leaving academia, consulting can be a great option. Your expertise and research skills are highly valued in the industry. You can start by networking, attending industry conferences, and possibly seeking mentorship from those who have made similar transitions. Remember, your skills are versatile, and many opportunities await outside academia. Best of luck!
neha7325732 User 12/07/2024 10:58	User: neha7325732 - 12 July 2024 10:58 [url=https://www.quora.com/]abcd[/url]
raidamaisa User 30/07/2024 06:10	User: raidamaisa - 30 July 2024 06:10 I empathize with your disappointment. Academia can indeed be challenging and sometimes toxic. Utilizing essaywriters.ae can help you explore new career paths and effectively present your skills and experiences.
TomHank User 18/11/2024 06:50	User: TomHank - 18 November 2024 06:50 I get where you're coming from. The transition from PhD to Post Doc can feel isolating, especially when the academic culture doesn’t align with your expectations. If you're considering leaving academia, consulting could be a great fit, or you could explore industries like tech or data science that value your research skills. It’s all about finding a place that recognizes your expertise and offers the balance you’re seeking.
NobleKnightX User 27/08/2025 07:28	User: NobleKnightX - 27 August 2025 07:28 As with everything with life, if you choose the wrong role with the wrong team, things can be toxic.
palentinfo User 07/01/2026 08:04	User: palentinfo - 07 January 2026 08:04 I hear you—it’s tough when the reality of academia doesn’t match your expectations. Many PhDs and PostDocs face similar frustrations. You can transition to consulting or industry by leveraging your research, analytical, and project management skills. Roles in data analysis, research consulting, policy, tech, or education are common paths. Networking, building a strong CV, and exploring transferable skills are key. Remember, leaving academia doesn’t mean failure—it can open up new, fulfilling opportunities.

Author

Message

queserasera

User 21/10/2023
07:43

Disappointed Postdoc: Is academia really that toxic?

User: queserasera - 21 October 2023 07:43

Hey all,

I have come to a realisation these past few months and I would like to discuss this with people who might understand the situation.

Finished my PhD, and started my PostDoc. Being proud of being a Dr. and achieving the highest qualification in my educational journey after such a challenging journey I joined the university with aspirations, dreams, and a great dose of romanticism.

Ever since I joined the university as a Postdoc, ( 2 months), I am being treated as an assistant to say the least. I feel like I am the equivalent of an undergrad in the department. I never demanded to be treated like a professor, I know my place in the ladder...but it saddens me that the human element is lost between great egos, unemotional faces, and power dynamics.

I know what I want to achieve through my PostDoc, and this is the only thing that is keeping me sane. Even though it is too early to speak, I do not like the academic culture, it is too harsh for me.

Is this it? Why?
How can one leave academia and start consulting?
What can one do in the industry?

Thank you.

KoCer

User 25/10/2023
13:27

User: KoCer - 25 October 2023 13:27

CFBR

tru

User 28/12/2023
22:10

User: tru - 28 December 2023 22:10

As with everything with life, if you choose the wrong role with the wrong team, things can be toxic.

Go ahead and leave academia if you don’t like it. Life is too short not to try. Do your literature review and read articles of what industry roles there are. Maybe target a start up and work your way up. All the best

melatonin

User 29/05/2024
04:32

User: melatonin - 29 May 2024 04:32

I'd never make excuses for that and I'd advise you to move on. From my own experience working in a trouble-shooting team: clear, communicative leadership, structures and processes can transform a toxic workplace for the better. (I write that mostly so you don't think your colleagues are inherently dreadful). But the opportunity to do so only comes with drastic necessity, and universities don't seem to be facing any. Yet.
(Also any career with no obvious markers of performance can be fraught).

abuislam

User 06/06/2024
09:35

User: abuislam - 06 June 2024 09:35

I understand how disheartening it must be to face such challenges after achieving your PhD and starting your PostDoc. The transition to academia can indeed be tough, with its power dynamics and often impersonal environment.

If you're considering leaving academia, consulting can be a great option. Your expertise and research skills are highly valued in the industry. You can start by networking, attending industry conferences, and possibly seeking mentorship from those who have made similar transitions.

Remember, your skills are versatile, and many opportunities await outside academia. Best of luck!

neha7325732

User 12/07/2024
10:58

User: neha7325732 - 12 July 2024 10:58

[url=https://www.quora.com/]abcd[/url]

raidamaisa

User 30/07/2024
06:10

User: raidamaisa - 30 July 2024 06:10

I empathize with your disappointment. Academia can indeed be challenging and sometimes toxic. Utilizing essaywriters.ae can help you explore new career paths and effectively present your skills and experiences.

TomHank

User 18/11/2024
06:50

User: TomHank - 18 November 2024 06:50

I get where you're coming from. The transition from PhD to Post Doc can feel isolating, especially when the academic culture doesn’t align with your expectations. If you're considering leaving academia, consulting could be a great fit, or you could explore industries like tech or data science that value your research skills. It’s all about finding a place that recognizes your expertise and offers the balance you’re seeking.

NobleKnightX

User 27/08/2025
07:28

User: NobleKnightX - 27 August 2025 07:28

As with everything with life, if you choose the wrong role with the wrong team, things can be toxic.

palentinfo

User 07/01/2026
08:04

User: palentinfo - 07 January 2026 08:04

I hear you—it’s tough when the reality of academia doesn’t match your expectations. Many PhDs and PostDocs face similar frustrations. You can transition to consulting or industry by leveraging your research, analytical, and project management skills. Roles in data analysis, research consulting, policy, tech, or education are common paths. Networking, building a strong CV, and exploring transferable skills are key. Remember, leaving academia doesn’t mean failure—it can open up new, fulfilling opportunities.